With the Dodgers in Washington, D.C. Tuesday, preparing for a game which would eventually be postponed on account of rain, Clayton Kershaw made a beeline for the New York office of orthopedist, Dr. Bryan Kelley, of the Hospital for Special Surgery.

The takeaway is this. Kershaw has a “hip impingement,” which confirms an earlier diagnosis, and he either will pitch again in 2012 or he won’t. He’ll either have surgery which will put him out for the start of next season, or maybe he won’t.

My guess is, after much hand wringing the club and its most precious resource will get together and decide to do the smart thing – and soon, like tomorrow – and shut it down for the year. Surgery will follow shortly thereafter.

Kelley was Los Angeles’ second opinion, and the team has already said there will be others, which is fine, I suppose. I’d like to think the point of all this is to form a consensus, and to come up with the best plan for the young man moving forward, and not to save the season.

Because while we can argue whether the season is worth saving or not, there can be no intelligent thought behind the risking of a player’s health and career because a club didn’t do everything humanly possible to get the science down pat before making a decision, and err on the side of conservatism thereafter.

And I’m sorry, but I’m skeptical. In recent times, and this year in particular, the Dodgers haven’t had the best of track records when it comes to these things. They could not have handled Matt Kemp’s original May hamstring injury any worse if they’d outlined the thing on a chalkboard in advance.

First he could play through it, and even keep his consecutive games streak alive, then he couldn’t, needed a few days, and finally the disabled list. Then he came back early, injured himself further and hit the DL for another month-plus on the sidelines. Blame the player if you like; I say it’s on the organization.

Chad Billingsley had some elbow pain – no big deal, just a pitcher with an elbow – missed a start with a minimalist retroactive-DL move that included the All-Star break, came back better than ever, only to fall again with what might very well lead to Tommy John surgery. But the Dodgers aren’t sure about that either, and are trying another course of treatment.

Kershaw complained of pain in his right hip, had a cortisone shot and missed a big start in San Francisco ten days ago. He followed-up by throwing a great ballgame in Arizona last week, missed another outing Sunday at home because of increased pain in the hip, and the next thing on the schedule turns out to be a doctor’s visit 3000 miles away.

Like I said, I expect Kershaw to throw in the towel on his 2012 season imminently, while the team holds on to its for dear life, unless and until the math tells them it’s impossible. But that’s just a guess, and I could easily be wrong.

I just hope that whatever’s decided for, by, and about the Dodgers’ ace, it’s with something other than a cross-your-fingers mentality that puts the club first and the patient second. Or perhaps more accurately, the present first and future second.

All the better if a unanimous decision is reached, but if not, I hope the loudest, sagest voice comes from any one of the following, because they’re all to some degree responsible for what happens next, good or bad: doctors, trainers, Ned Colletti, Don Mattingly and Mr. Kerhsaw, in that order.

And Mrs. Kershaw. In fact, put her anywhere on the list she feels comfortable. Hers’ll probably be the wisest voice in the room.

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in all seriousness, just bring
kershaw to me & i’ll fix him;
 
amir khan / carmalita
jeter / i’ll have another.
 
the pussycat dolls.
 
who’s next …..
 
 

September 18, 2012 7:17 pm

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hmmm, where does larry fall in the responsibility order above? hopefully last resort. if that. just kidding mr. doby.

September 18, 2012 7:58 pm

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My son, the basketball player, had hip impingement surgery almost two years ago.  There’s no way they’ll let Kershaw pitch – if they do, he’ll have increasing damage to not only the cartilage in his hip, but to the labrum which, like Josh Shipp at UCLA, could be seriously damaged.  It’s also often accompanied by a “sports hernia,” which isn’t serious if operated on by the right guy, but has its own recovery time of a couple of weeks.  If the hip impingement surgery occurs early, he’ll be back in 12 weeks or so, as was my son and another acquaintance, Geoff Schwartz now of the Minnesota Vikings, who had two of them in the past year.  There will be lingering pains for a while as the scar tissue breaks up, but the good news is that if there hasn’t been extensive damage so far, he should be ready to go without restraint easily by Spring Training.  From what I know, I hope like hell they don’t let him try and tough it out.

September 18, 2012 8:42 pm

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I had a bad feeling the first time he missed a start even when he came back and pitched well.  I’m numb – and not comfortably.  Luckily I’ve still got the Giants and Yankees to root against.  Go A’s!

September 18, 2012 8:44 pm

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What a strange, strange Dodger year…

September 18, 2012 9:27 pm

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If there is going to be future damage they ( Dodgers ) need to shut him down. just the thought of any kind of damage is enough to say no more this season…

September 19, 2012 6:34 am

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They (dodgers) need to shut him down. this season is somewhat over. to many games lost at home, not enough wins in the div. too many games lost by 1 runs, this is not what a championship team looks like…

September 19, 2012 6:37 am

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@Clouddodger1 “My son, the basketball player.” Said just like a Jewish mother, “my son, the doctor!” with such pride. I love it. Thanks, Richard.

September 19, 2012 10:06 am

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Yes, and he loves chicken soup.  Good boy. @Howard Cole  @Clouddodger1 

September 19, 2012 10:44 am

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is larry doby in the
right place today ?
 
as i tried 2 separate cole blogs
yesterday without a response;
 
please advise. thank you ……
 
 

September 19, 2012 12:02 pm

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 @Johnny Dodger 
 
 
as strange as it may be, we
are frank mc hoard free !!!!
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 12:03 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Clouddodger1 
 
who’s to say, this one;
 
it’s a mitzvah if he don’t ….
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 12:04 pm

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 @chasramsfan 
 
 
such the term of the
year, shut him down;
 
seems to be the norm amongst
young pitchers these daze …..
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 12:06 pm

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Get the feeling that Kershaw is going to throw a pen session, declare himself OK, and they will trot him out on Sunday against the Reds. Not saying they should do this, just saying that’s wha I think is going to happen.

September 19, 2012 12:10 pm

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 @The Commish 
 
 
 
presidents / royalty / noble peace prize recipients / hall
of fame athletes / kentucky derby winners / billionaires 
 
just line them up & i’ll fix em.
 
i’m the last line before
they go under the knife …
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 12:10 pm

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6 plus hours of dodger baseball…thats a stress test for ya. if you are stll kicking at the end… you live.

September 19, 2012 12:53 pm

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@larrydoby you’re always in the right place, dober. there was no game yesterday with the rainout, so that’s why no response. we were all in a collective coma.

September 19, 2012 1:10 pm

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six hours?! try nine hours.

September 19, 2012 1:10 pm

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@Throwdeuce I can see that, but I also see kersh being the adult in the room and just saying, you know what, I can’t even play catch. cut me open.

September 19, 2012 1:11 pm

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nice start, huh? I’m a better hitter than kemp right now. ok, quick, everybody put their guess in, how many runs does harang give up in the first?

for extra credit, how many pitches does he throw? I say two runs on 26 pitches.

September 19, 2012 1:13 pm

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we knead BOTH these wins
this afternoon, NOT a split;

September 19, 2012 1:13 pm

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 @larrydoby
 no game = no thread

September 19, 2012 1:14 pm

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oh, and the winner gets a note from the teacher and an excuse to be off the thread for the rest of the day! be exact with your guess and get a pass on the rest of the season!

September 19, 2012 1:14 pm

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what channel is this debacle on today ?

September 19, 2012 1:15 pm

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@larrydoby 9.

September 19, 2012 1:16 pm

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 @Howard Cole 
 
nice howard; if YOU don’t have faith,
then what’s left, the commish ?
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 1:16 pm

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“sensation”? collins hasn’t been paying attention. so what else is new.

September 19, 2012 1:17 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @larrydoby 
 
found it; thank you.
 
the time / warner listings said the
people’s court. ( how appropriate ) 

September 19, 2012 1:17 pm

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@larrydoby isn’t it though?

September 19, 2012 1:19 pm

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@larrydoby yep. four out of six on the week seems fair.

September 19, 2012 1:19 pm

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zero runs on 20 pitches. since I’m the closest, that makes me the winner. see ya next week!

September 19, 2012 1:22 pm

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spooky quite here after one… am I the only home body ?

September 19, 2012 1:22 pm

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seems like my guys have day jobs. yeah, that’s it.

September 19, 2012 1:25 pm

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hate to say it, but this the last few minutes matt kemp is going to be hitting .300 for the duration.

September 19, 2012 1:26 pm

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he’ll homer.

September 19, 2012 1:29 pm

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or not.

September 19, 2012 1:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole  At least after this season nobody will be talking about how Kemp is underpaid by baseball standards.  (not Kemp, just writers and baseball people etc).

September 19, 2012 1:31 pm

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 @Howard Cole  Yep, and I need to get some work done before my producer gets back and wants to know why I didn’t finish the damn spot.

September 19, 2012 1:32 pm

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grand slam ????

September 19, 2012 1:32 pm

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stikeout?

September 19, 2012 1:33 pm

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oh well. at least they got the pitcher out of the way. that’s the best you can expect with a leadoff double.

September 19, 2012 1:33 pm

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here’s kemp, trying to stay about .300.

September 19, 2012 1:51 pm

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WTF ?
 
just looked & to see matt
kemp actually get a hit ?
 
promises / promises ….
 
 

September 19, 2012 1:53 pm

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he was just setting up a force at any base.

September 19, 2012 1:54 pm

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 @Howard Cole 
 
took lanahan today
in my fantasy league;
 
 

September 19, 2012 1:54 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @larrydoby 
 
as a minimum …

September 19, 2012 1:55 pm

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dodgers score first run in a year!

September 19, 2012 1:56 pm

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Token appearance by , yeah, the Commish.

September 19, 2012 2:08 pm

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Wow, Harang escapes!

September 19, 2012 2:08 pm

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Harangadang is half way to a quality start!  Yay…

September 19, 2012 2:09 pm

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 @Steve in North Hollywood Though the “quality” so far seems pretty low.

September 19, 2012 2:10 pm

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the “tomko start,” you mean?

September 19, 2012 2:11 pm

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I’ll take token. I’ll take dby. I’ll take 15-0 the rest of the way, with blanton the nlcs mvp and capuano the ws mvp.

September 19, 2012 2:12 pm

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uh oh. leadoff double.

September 19, 2012 2:12 pm

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 @Howard Cole  Yep, exactly.  It should be called the “not so bad I got pulled before the 6th, but if you don’t score 5 runs we’re probably gonna lose” start.

September 19, 2012 2:12 pm

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 @Howard Cole  But, the “Tomko start” works too…

September 19, 2012 2:13 pm

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Yeah, with me and dby, you’re scrapin’ the bottom of the barrel.

September 19, 2012 2:16 pm

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Another escape routine?

September 19, 2012 2:26 pm

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I don’t know. I’m half-relieved if he just gives up two here.

September 19, 2012 2:27 pm

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 @Howard Cole whew.

September 19, 2012 2:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole Gotta go to dinner.  Will check my phone when I get there.

September 19, 2012 2:29 pm

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In 4 innings, Werth has been up 3 times.  Luckily, he’s werthless… get it – Werthless!
And Tom said I wasn’t funny…

September 19, 2012 2:31 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  Dinner Commish?  Now?  Say high to my parents (they eat early too)…

September 19, 2012 2:32 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  The Commish  Howard Cole  Dinner Commish?  Now?  Say “hi” to my parents (they eat early too)…

September 19, 2012 2:32 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole   Dinner Commish?  Now?  Say “hi” to my parents (they eat early too)…

September 19, 2012 2:33 pm

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people are tweeting that when hanley got that hit, he broke his bat, which went into the dugout and hit kershaw. oy.

September 19, 2012 2:33 pm

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 @Howard Cole  As long as it didn’t “Yeager” him…

September 19, 2012 2:35 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood oy!!!!!!!!!!

September 19, 2012 2:36 pm

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trivia: who hit the ball in the famous yeagering incident?

September 19, 2012 2:36 pm

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matt kemp cannot wait to lay by his new
pool in arizona in the next 10 days;

September 19, 2012 2:37 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @DeathByYoungblood  No more Death.  I heard it was insensitive.  This is the new, less deathy Steve… in NORTH HOLLYWOOD.  Yeahhhh Booyyyyy. (well, technically, I’m working in Burbank)

September 19, 2012 2:38 pm

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@larrydoby does kemp actually have a new pad in arizona?

September 19, 2012 2:40 pm

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 @larrydoby
 take your crazy elsewhere..were all full up here…

September 19, 2012 2:40 pm

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from ESPN Fantasy;
 
” Kenley Jansen should get plenty of work over the final two weeks of the season.
 
His fantasy owners will have to hope that the Dodgers can build some leads for Jansen to protect.
 
That’s been an issue lately, as the Dodgers are 6-12 since making the blockbuster trade that brought Adrian Gonzalez and Josh Beckett to Los Angeles and Matt Kemp is currently hitting a meager .164 ”
 
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 2:41 pm

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 @Howard Cole   Russell did it.  With a bat, at the stadium.

September 19, 2012 2:41 pm

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 @rotarandy 
 
just trying to fit in with
you at the moronic level;

September 19, 2012 2:42 pm

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 @larrydoby
 LOL

September 19, 2012 2:42 pm

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Ok, back to work and an occasional glance at GameTracker.

September 19, 2012 2:43 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood it was russell, yes, but I’m pretty sure it was on the road, and I wanna say san diego.

September 19, 2012 2:44 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @larrydoby 
 
YES; MLB / T.V. did a special on his $2.5 million custom home
in paradise valley & the gym he works out at while in the desert.
 
the backyard is SO sweet ….
 
 
 

September 19, 2012 2:44 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood you’re a smart man.

September 19, 2012 2:44 pm

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probably the homer now and a 4-1 lead.

September 19, 2012 2:44 pm

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 @larrydoby
 I was in movieronic mode.

September 19, 2012 2:47 pm

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same place

September 19, 2012 2:59 pm

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4 not

September 19, 2012 3:00 pm

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I’m looking forward to a nap. after the first game. or during.

September 19, 2012 3:05 pm

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I’ve had the Carpenter’s, “We’ve Only Just Begun” stuck in my head for the past hour or so.  I can’t make it go away.

September 19, 2012 3:09 pm

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Wait, what?  We’re losing by a run?  Psshhhh, ok… who saw that coming?

September 19, 2012 3:10 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood I feel your pain even more with that comment.

September 19, 2012 3:11 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @DeathByYoungblood  Yeah, and now I’m hungry.  Too soon?

September 19, 2012 3:12 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood what’s it been, 20 years?

September 19, 2012 3:12 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @DeathByYoungblood  Probably longer… hold on….

September 19, 2012 3:13 pm

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1100 comments to go. I don’t think we’ll make it for the season, let alone today.

September 19, 2012 3:13 pm

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 @Howard Cole 29.  But who’s counting?

September 19, 2012 3:14 pm

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 @Howard Cole Calories I mean…

September 19, 2012 3:14 pm

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 @Howard Cole Ok, that was wrong.

September 19, 2012 3:14 pm

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 @Howard Cole  Once the boys in blue start winning you’ll have no prob…. oh… wait.  Never mind.

September 19, 2012 3:15 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood 2013 or later than that?

September 19, 2012 3:15 pm

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Ahhhh, the good ol’ days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJdli-ONL-8

September 19, 2012 3:18 pm

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statue.

September 19, 2012 3:20 pm

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100!

September 19, 2012 3:20 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 look…a dalmation

September 19, 2012 3:26 pm

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@rotarandy nice call, randy!

September 19, 2012 3:27 pm

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I just watched Gonzo’s BA tick down another point two seconds before CBS GameTracker put up the third out and ended the inning.

September 19, 2012 3:33 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood you should see the twitter thread. I’ve been reduced to defending him, so you can imagine the inaneness of the guy I’m going back and forth with. and google news recognized him, and not me.

September 19, 2012 3:35 pm

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oh shit, I just noticed guerrier’s in the game.

September 19, 2012 3:35 pm

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Ethier, Kemp, Gonzo, and Han-Ram each have hits today.  And Cruz has two.

September 19, 2012 3:35 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood be something if it was all in the same inning.

September 19, 2012 3:36 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @DeathByYoungblood  Well, I once went down that road, but, I wasn’t blaming him.  I think he’s still not quite right physically and people have expectations that he’s the same player he was in SD and for half a season or so in Boston.  Right now, he’s not that guy.

September 19, 2012 3:38 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @DeathByYoungblood  It wouldn’t just be something, it would probably be a W.

September 19, 2012 3:39 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood yeah, and this sure likes like the typical game, doesn’t it? I’m not going to hurry back to watch nine innings of the second game. I’ll probably just torture myself with six or seven.

September 19, 2012 3:45 pm

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@DeathByYoungblood you could be right, but if the team’s any good next year, he should be fine. it’s just too much for any one guy right now. a total team collapse.

September 19, 2012 4:07 pm

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plus injuries.

September 19, 2012 4:08 pm

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This is why I hate to waste any more time watching as the Dodgers lose games – about as enjoyable as watching Cleveland or Toronto.  This one or two runs a game and a cast of thousands left on base is just depressing.
This is like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when you stop.

September 19, 2012 4:29 pm

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OK – I’m hitting myself in the head with a hammer again, but I’ll be doing other things while this is on.

September 19, 2012 4:41 pm

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what

September 19, 2012 4:54 pm

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the

September 19, 2012 4:55 pm

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fu@[

September 19, 2012 4:58 pm

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Gee! Nothing has changed since the first game.

September 19, 2012 5:10 pm

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225 points, rotarandy? Cheater.  :-)
 

September 19, 2012 5:21 pm

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 @Johnny Dodger
 I have the commish in my sights….

September 19, 2012 5:29 pm

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 @rotarandy Damn! I just gave you another point!

September 19, 2012 5:31 pm

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bout time

September 19, 2012 5:32 pm

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Nice to see that happen for a change. Thanks, Hanley.

September 19, 2012 5:32 pm

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ditto

September 19, 2012 5:49 pm

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I take a nap and the dodgers score three runs. I turn it on and they immediately score again. wtf?!

September 19, 2012 5:51 pm

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 @Howard Cole You’re just dreaming – go back to sleep.

September 19, 2012 5:52 pm

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GS GS GS

September 19, 2012 5:54 pm

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@Johnny Dodger my dreams are a lot more fun than that, pal.

September 19, 2012 5:55 pm

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omg. every dodgers except the pitcher has a hit. and they have a run for every two hits. holy shit, batman!

September 19, 2012 5:56 pm

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on most days the dodgers can’t even score on a wild pitch. something strange going on here.

September 19, 2012 5:57 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 theres a man with a bat over there.

September 19, 2012 5:59 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 hey whats that sounds everybody see whats going down

September 19, 2012 6:00 pm

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@rotarandy nice for csn reference. great song.

September 19, 2012 6:13 pm

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so I show up late and everyone disappears, with the dodgers bleeping winning!?

September 19, 2012 6:13 pm

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beckett looks great, doesn’t he?

September 19, 2012 6:16 pm

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I’ve decided I want and deserve 500 points.

September 19, 2012 6:18 pm

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 @Howard Cole No, I’m also charring some of my world-famous Garlic Burgers, but I’m still around.

September 19, 2012 6:18 pm

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 @Howard Cole Both his LA starts were good too. No run support does not help

September 19, 2012 6:19 pm

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 @Howard Cole What u been watching? They have been winning on the road in the east coast cities all year

September 19, 2012 6:20 pm

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Harper is the real deal. Thank Kasten for that too

September 19, 2012 6:22 pm

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@Dabigjh how you doing, john?

September 19, 2012 6:27 pm

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so if they can keep this lead and maybe (god forbid) even increase it, we can safely get kenley into the game without worrying about the results. just give him 15 pitches and get him outta there.

September 19, 2012 6:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Dabigjh Rolling along. I am already excited for the winter meetings

September 19, 2012 6:30 pm

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 @Howard Cole Yup just a little workout…

September 19, 2012 6:30 pm

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@Dabigjh not me. not yet.

September 19, 2012 6:31 pm

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 @Howard Cole Last year at this time i was not really getting excited for the new season. This year i am very much so…

September 19, 2012 6:31 pm

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@Dabigjh st. louis is gonna win tonight, it looks like, but I’m not giving up on 2012. no way.

September 19, 2012 6:33 pm

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 @Howard Cole Dont get me wrong, i am happy we are in a position to go further but we now have something to look forward to for the next 10 years and its about time. Starting with the rebuild of our farm, which might take that long. If we do get the #2 WC spot do we let K pitch?

September 19, 2012 6:34 pm

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@Dabigjh it’s up to kersh, it seems to me. and we can only hope he’s as smart going forward as he has been to date.

September 19, 2012 6:39 pm

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500 points, please.

September 19, 2012 6:39 pm

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Howard – hard for me to believe now, but MY big hope is they finish over .500. It kills me that the Giants are, what, 9 games ahead? The season is gone.

September 19, 2012 6:39 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Dabigjh He seems like a smart kid. By then he could maybe go one game. Maybe no. We will know in a short time…

September 19, 2012 6:40 pm

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@Dabigjh he’d have to throw a bullpen first, and i can’t imagine that would go well.

September 19, 2012 6:41 pm

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@Johnny Dodger I understand, but i’m still hoping for the second wild card. whatever it takes to give us bonus baseball. even one game extra works for me.

September 19, 2012 6:44 pm

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 @Howard Cole Guarantee they talk to king Felix during the meetings. If we started the playoffs tomorrow we would have Beckett, Harang, Cappy, Blanton and Fife (if he is eligible). From what i have seen Fife will be a good SP. Get outs, throws strikes and low era with crap run support. BTW the Nats have some outstanding D…

September 19, 2012 6:44 pm

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commish’s boy zach duke, everybody! and commish ain’t here to see it.

September 19, 2012 6:44 pm

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500 points, please.

September 19, 2012 6:45 pm

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 @Howard Cole OK.

September 19, 2012 6:47 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Dabigjh If noticed Kasten has already started to rebuild the farm. Wait for it……………..Can You say……………The Cuban kid……………Piug! Pronounced Pewg. Alot have asked over the past few months why he was on the 40 man roster. The answer – He was signed to a MLB contract not a MiLb contract. I thought that was a cool thing to know…

September 19, 2012 6:51 pm

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@Johnny Dodger thanks, but I really meant 5000 points. and 10000 comments.

September 19, 2012 6:51 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Johnny You’ll have to raise the bribery incentive  from $0.00 to something a little higher in a remunerative sense.

September 19, 2012 6:54 pm

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@Johnny Dodger lemme see what I can come up with.

September 19, 2012 6:54 pm

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some people are talking on twitter about how if the brewers end up with the second wild card, ryan braun would be right back in the thick of the mvp race again. oh joy.

September 19, 2012 6:59 pm

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uh oh.

September 19, 2012 7:01 pm

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honeygoltz.

September 19, 2012 7:02 pm

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well, if they blow this, I will officially sitck the fork in them. but I remain hopeful.

September 19, 2012 7:03 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Dabigjh You have to check out the stats of  Corey Seager in his first season of the minors. Great numbers. We are LOOOOOOOKING GOOOOOOOOOOD!

September 19, 2012 7:06 pm

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I thought the rules were pretty clear – Kemp didn’t cross home plate before the third out occurred. The run shouldn’t count (not that I’ll complain to MLB).

September 19, 2012 7:08 pm

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@Johnny Dodger the rule is clear, but the umps missed it. nothing you can do. they’ll probably apologize, but such is life. the nationals can afford to lose one call, don’t you think?

September 19, 2012 7:09 pm

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it’ll make for good copy, anyway.

September 19, 2012 7:11 pm

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Wicked AB

September 19, 2012 7:12 pm

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@Dabigjh wicked season. wicked life lately.

September 19, 2012 7:12 pm

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now the homer.

September 19, 2012 7:12 pm

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This is a hell of an 8th inning – why won’t it end?

September 19, 2012 7:13 pm

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@Johnny Dodger that’s a rhetorical question, right?

September 19, 2012 7:14 pm

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I think this is final nail in the coffin here. there won’t be a man left on that bench that will think they can come back from this, and they’ll be right.

September 19, 2012 7:15 pm

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Well, now I have to go make my world-famous Garlic Meatballs, so you all have fun. I’ll keep my eye on the screen from the kitchen, but can’t type comments with messy fingers.

September 19, 2012 7:16 pm

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@Johnny Dodger yes you can, but ok.

September 19, 2012 7:18 pm

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Unbelievable, except it’s our Dodgers.

September 19, 2012 7:21 pm

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Oy, the humanity!!!!

September 19, 2012 7:22 pm

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What , I go out to dinner, come back and the season is over???

September 19, 2012 7:23 pm

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this nightmare is finally over;

September 19, 2012 7:24 pm

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your fault, of course. they should be losing, if not for the lamest call in baseball history.

September 19, 2012 7:24 pm

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@larrydoby what, you’re kidding right? they’re gonna lose it ten minutes, and it’ll be the worst loss of the year by far. and the official end of the season. and on top of that, they’ll probably announce tomorrow that mattingly has be re-signed and kersh is pitching.

September 19, 2012 7:25 pm

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you can’t blame him for the way
the country is being run either;

September 19, 2012 7:25 pm

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@Johnny Dodger exactly. it’s completely believable.

September 19, 2012 7:26 pm

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 @The Commish
 perfect.  hahaha

September 19, 2012 7:26 pm

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if this was a playoff game, and the dodgers were a bunch of other teams, mattingly would be fired for it.

September 19, 2012 7:26 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @larrydoby 
 
well, at least i get either a win or a 2nd save
from tyler clippard in my fantasy league;
 
 

September 19, 2012 7:28 pm

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Remember that Phillies game about 20 years ago when they got 9 runs in the ninth inning? That’s what this looks like.

September 19, 2012 7:28 pm

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 @Howard Cole 
 
matt who ?

September 19, 2012 7:29 pm

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oh my fucking god.

September 19, 2012 7:29 pm

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Whoa!

September 19, 2012 7:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole 
 
potty mouth …

September 19, 2012 7:29 pm

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@linkmeister I remember it like it was yesterday. I came out of a movie in century city with an eight run lead. by the time I got home it was gone.

September 19, 2012 7:30 pm

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We are the world … we are the people….everybody hold hands and pray in the bottom of 9th.

September 19, 2012 7:30 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @linkmeister Yeah. I watched the whole thing on ESPN (this was when they did Friday Night Baseball). Couldn’t believe it.

September 19, 2012 7:31 pm

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@larrydoby I know, right. but can you blame me?

September 19, 2012 7:31 pm

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thankfully Kemp hit one. 

September 19, 2012 7:32 pm

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@The Commish I have my fingers crossed, my hands, my arms, my legs, and of course, my testicles.

September 19, 2012 7:32 pm

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be funny if they brought in kenley and he lost the game.

September 19, 2012 7:33 pm

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There  are still some people in the stands.

September 19, 2012 7:33 pm

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three run lead please

September 19, 2012 7:33 pm

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@The Commish looks like about as many as six hours ago to me. more in fact.

September 19, 2012 7:33 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo you’d have had a field day with this one, tom. you still might.

September 19, 2012 7:34 pm

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I’ll spare the thread a Giants’ scoring update.  Need to keep my friends here after the season is over.  However, Sandoval did connect on a three-run job.

September 19, 2012 7:34 pm

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the brewers’ll pass the dodgers if this doesn’t end well.

September 19, 2012 7:35 pm

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hopefully, I have the ibwaa site done tomorrow. maybe friday. and I can get those ballots out. you think anyone’ll still vote?

September 19, 2012 7:35 pm

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A-Gone usin’ the old noggin.

September 19, 2012 7:36 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo thank you. we can operate the internet, you know. plus, we don’t care about the giants anymore. we’ll start caring when they open the postseason.

September 19, 2012 7:36 pm

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we could really use another wild pitch here.

September 19, 2012 7:37 pm

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@The Commish he’s been absolutely reamed on twitter. but not by me.

September 19, 2012 7:37 pm

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gonzales has more steals since
the big buyout than matty kemp;

September 19, 2012 7:37 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 oh, goody, I guess that means that all my friends here will be rooting for the G’s in the post-season. 

September 19, 2012 7:37 pm

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 @Howard Cole dunno, bruh.

September 19, 2012 7:38 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom No, WE won’t care when the Giants open up the post season.

September 19, 2012 7:38 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @larrydoby 
 
we can trust your wife has
a place for that mouth;

September 19, 2012 7:38 pm

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This is like a horse race where one horse is way up , get caught, and then
wins the race. Rarely happens. We need some good old fashioned luck.

September 19, 2012 7:39 pm

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@larrydoby looked like a wild pitch to me, but that’s fine. whatever it takes to get to 219.

September 19, 2012 7:39 pm

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 @Howard Cole So THAT’S why Gonzales kept advancing. ESPN’s Gamecast made no mention of it, but his little baserunner avatar moved from 1st to 3rd. Sheesh. I’m going back to MLB’s Gameday.

September 19, 2012 7:40 pm

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tommy’s birthday. I might have to write a new transplant article for that one.

September 19, 2012 7:40 pm

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Baltimore Seattle headed for another 18 inning marathon.

September 19, 2012 7:40 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 you make me out to be a mean-spirited Giants’ fan.

September 19, 2012 7:41 pm

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1 done, ez peezy.

September 19, 2012 7:41 pm

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I’m late, but I’ve been waiting to send one email with the new site link, plus the ballots. and I planned to only give people two weeks, so I might just be a couple days late. also, I’m thinking about skipping the comeback and executive awards, just so everyone has that much less work to do filling stuff out.

September 19, 2012 7:42 pm

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Did Davey Johnson protest game over Kemp’s run?

September 19, 2012 7:42 pm

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@The Commish I don’t think it was something he could protest. it wasn’t really a rule thing. they just didn’t see it.

September 19, 2012 7:44 pm

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Local boy League doing well.

September 19, 2012 7:44 pm

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stros about to go 53 games under .500. talk about oy.

September 19, 2012 7:45 pm

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mattingly deserves no credit for this one. none, zip, nada.

September 19, 2012 7:45 pm

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League was stellar.

September 19, 2012 7:46 pm

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@The Commish yep. we gotta credit ned for that one, don’t we.

September 19, 2012 7:46 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The yep

September 19, 2012 7:47 pm

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 @Howard Cole He’s still coming back next year, per Colletti, who is coming back per Kasten.

September 19, 2012 7:47 pm

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So my local news will show me some Dodgers highlights, since League got into the game. I never saw Dodgers on my sports news till we got Victorino and then League. Lots of Phillies highlights over the past four years, but no Dodgers. Not to say my local TV news is insular, but Maui boy Shane is a hero to them. In a smaller way so is League and so is Kurt Suzuki.

September 19, 2012 7:47 pm

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it’s always better to win the second game, and I suppose a series win is still possible. that would be nice.

September 19, 2012 7:47 pm

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that’s it for me, thanks guys. trader joes awaits. kirk out.

September 19, 2012 7:48 pm

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Back to my kitchen – goodnight, all.

September 19, 2012 7:48 pm

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Well, Caps tomorrow night. And if you say it’s my fault I will literally come through the thread and bop you over the head.

September 19, 2012 7:48 pm

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 @The Commish It’s not your fault:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkST5-ZFHw

September 19, 2012 9:02 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 I’ve been censored.  You Can Look It Up, Pal.

September 19, 2012 9:40 pm

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242….here but no TV till 6…..fill in when you can please…

September 20, 2012 3:48 pm

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if there was ever a game to win,
this one today, is monumental; 
 
embarking on this road trip,
hereinafter, it is a must win today …
 
 

September 20, 2012 3:53 pm

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yep. and the bleeping astros had second and third in the seventh, bases loaded in the eighth and a man at second in the ninth, and left them all, losing 5-4 to the cards. but ok. there’s still plenty of time. and the cubs will come thru against the cards this weekend. but first, let’s win tonight!

September 20, 2012 4:02 pm

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244comments 244 pts.  iwin

September 20, 2012 4:04 pm

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and we’re underway with three participants!

September 20, 2012 4:07 pm

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home run, please.

September 20, 2012 4:10 pm

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looks the same to me. ten pitches.

September 20, 2012 4:11 pm

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commish knows the deal. if capuano sucks and he’s not here, we’ll make him eat shit. if the commish is here and takes it like a man, he’s off the hook no matter what. but if caps actually pitches well, and the commish ain’t here, he gets no credit.

September 20, 2012 4:13 pm

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one pitch and a base hit.

September 20, 2012 4:15 pm

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got the SN play by play going…

September 20, 2012 4:15 pm

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Phillies 5 singles in 1st 5 batters, what’s the record????

September 20, 2012 4:24 pm

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@The Commish more than that.

September 20, 2012 4:27 pm

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glad you showed up like a man:)

September 20, 2012 4:28 pm

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 @Howard Cole I guess I am a man. Big f’in deal.

September 20, 2012 4:28 pm

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all worms in dc dead after two dodgers turns at bat.

September 20, 2012 4:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole Too bad Dodgers are 8 men short (except for Caps of course)

September 20, 2012 4:29 pm

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doing split computer screen; thread on left; game on right

September 20, 2012 4:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The 4 runs in, still nobody out. Could be a first inning record?

September 20, 2012 4:30 pm

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@The Commish now that’s what I’m talkin about.

September 20, 2012 4:31 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The I am a media freak!!!!!!!!!

September 20, 2012 4:32 pm

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capuano has the first pitch in an inning, one hit thing down already.

September 20, 2012 4:32 pm

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here we go, commish.

September 20, 2012 4:32 pm

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o @Howard Cole uh-oh, Like Tom in San Mateo, gotta go. Bye. Just kiddin’

September 20, 2012 4:32 pm

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@The Commish thanks for that.

September 20, 2012 4:33 pm

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ok, now the dp please.

September 20, 2012 4:33 pm

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looks like the perfect day for the bucs to go below .500 AGAIN. wow.

September 20, 2012 4:34 pm

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Hefner on Mets pulled a Glen Hobbie. Will explain in a few.

September 20, 2012 4:35 pm

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@The Commish you’ll have to cause that one’s over my head

September 20, 2012 4:36 pm

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 @Howard Cole You called that one ;  Bucs under .500 -  CONGRATS!!  You were definitely ahead of the curve!

September 20, 2012 4:37 pm

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 @The Commish wow thanks for the idea

September 20, 2012 4:38 pm

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ok, commish lucks out:)

September 20, 2012 4:38 pm

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Caps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 20, 2012 4:39 pm

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complaining about the schedule is silly. there’s no conspiracy. if a manager knows what he’s doing, it’s not an issue.

September 20, 2012 4:45 pm

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can you say “second no-hitter of the season vs the dodgers?” I can.

September 20, 2012 4:46 pm

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so the phils had nine singles in the first? oy.

September 20, 2012 4:47 pm

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sorry had to grab some dinner from kitchen.

September 20, 2012 4:48 pm

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2 pitches in an inning without a hit.

September 20, 2012 4:49 pm

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@The Commish ok, come back to caps sucking and expect a mountain of flack. stay, and you off the hook.

September 20, 2012 4:49 pm

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commish splits with caps giving up hits. have at him!

September 20, 2012 4:51 pm

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Can’t find it in baseball-reference.com yet, but the Glen Hobbie thing
was that Hobbie (Cub, played 57-64) got brutally bombed out of a game
pitching 0 innings or maybe got an out. My brother and I always called it
pulling a “Glen Hobbie” when someone got bombed out early like Hefner.

September 20, 2012 4:51 pm

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What a surprise – I’m not missing anything…

September 20, 2012 4:52 pm

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@The Commish ahh. i’ve got stuff like that with my brother too that nobody else knows. but fine, go. go!

September 20, 2012 4:52 pm

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So he gave up another lead-off hit?

September 20, 2012 4:52 pm

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 @The Commish Hobbie was actually a pretty good pitcher, but the Cubs never helped him much.

September 20, 2012 4:53 pm

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Almost – like in hand grenades – got DP

September 20, 2012 4:53 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood yes you are. you wanna see a perfect game or what? you missed the first third.

September 20, 2012 4:54 pm

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@The Commish pay attention. he gave up a hit, but it took him three pitches to do it. then went 3-0 on harper before getting a force (great play by adrian)

September 20, 2012 4:54 pm

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@Johnny Dodger @The Commish glad to see ya, john.

September 20, 2012 4:55 pm

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Whoops.

September 20, 2012 4:55 pm

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there goes the shutout.

September 20, 2012 4:55 pm

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and maybe the 1-0 game in a minute.

September 20, 2012 4:55 pm

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 @Howard Cole Howard, the eternal optimist

September 20, 2012 4:56 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Johnny  @The I’ve been here, Howard.

September 20, 2012 4:56 pm

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This means Morse is gonna get up this inning.  He’s dangerous right now.

September 20, 2012 4:57 pm

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2 out.

September 20, 2012 4:57 pm

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@The Commish so.

September 20, 2012 4:57 pm

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@The Commish bite me.

September 20, 2012 4:58 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The so he’s not collapsing. It’s called pitching.

September 20, 2012 4:58 pm

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I’m sorry, but aj ellis an awful catcher.

September 20, 2012 4:59 pm

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AJ sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 20, 2012 4:59 pm

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Cmon that should just be one run this inning.

September 20, 2012 5:00 pm

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@The Commish he’ll be a backup next year if he’s here at all. I’ve already heard they’re not happy. he just can’t catch the baseball.

September 20, 2012 5:00 pm

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 @The Commish put in misty mays boy

September 20, 2012 5:00 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The  Sounds good – who’s gonna start?

September 20, 2012 5:01 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The what about all the OBP shit?

September 20, 2012 5:01 pm

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problem is, steve lyons, he doesn’t handle it 99 times out of 100. therein lies the problem.

September 20, 2012 5:01 pm

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Caps has ‘em poppin’ up!!!!!!!! hahahaha

September 20, 2012 5:01 pm

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46 pitches thru three innings for Caps.

September 20, 2012 5:02 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  @The  That’s the operative word – shit.

September 20, 2012 5:02 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood that part doesn’t bother me. it’s the hits and the runs. but aj just is not a good catcher. and how many catchers can you say that about?

September 20, 2012 5:03 pm

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And just like that MEllis puts us back in it.

September 20, 2012 5:04 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood well it makes no sense they’re not give fedx a chance already. bizarre with two other guys not hitting. but they’ll upgrade by trade of free agency.

September 20, 2012 5:04 pm

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@The Commish a catch has to play defense first. has to.

September 20, 2012 5:05 pm

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@rotarandy @The Commish put in FEDX, just don’t make me learn how to spell it.

September 20, 2012 5:06 pm

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I don’t think Mr. Piazza played much D.  Course he was one of a kind.

September 20, 2012 5:06 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Steve  If he hit like Piazza I could live with it.

September 20, 2012 5:06 pm

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 @The Commish  Hey, I was just saying that.

September 20, 2012 5:07 pm

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 @Steve in North Hollywood sorry, but we need to keep the comments at the top as much as possible. Just too hard to follow.

September 20, 2012 5:07 pm

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 @The Commish Remember? Piazza was on the other side during that amazing 4 homer game with the Padres.
Of course, so was Adrian G.

September 20, 2012 5:08 pm

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@The Commish he was better than aj ellis with the glove. absolutely he was.

September 20, 2012 5:09 pm

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@The Commish @Steve in North Hollywood I’m always game for that.

September 20, 2012 5:09 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Wow, that is a real slap to AJ; Piazza was horrible. Maybe he could catch a ball, but they stole him blind.

September 20, 2012 5:09 pm

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@Johnny Dodger @The Commish bochy blew that one big time, but trevor hoffman had something to do with it.

September 20, 2012 5:10 pm

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Trivia question:  How many HRs has Victorino hit since coming to the Dodgers?  (and, yes, I know they didn’t pick him up to hit HRs.  But, he did hit 17 in 2011 and 18 in 2010).

September 20, 2012 5:10 pm

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@The Commish different skills. so aj throws better, a catch has to CATCH the baseball. and c’mon, we’re talking about the best hitting catcher in history, by far. he was entitled.

September 20, 2012 5:11 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood 1

September 20, 2012 5:11 pm

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 @The Commish  Makes it hard to reply.  Anyway, I was saying “I was just saying that” in a friendly way – like we were thinking the same thing at the same time.

September 20, 2012 5:11 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Steve  Chicken Dinner!

September 20, 2012 5:12 pm

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Just an FYI and  BTW, not Caps fault that LA doesn’t score any runs.
Kinda hard to always pitch from behind.

September 20, 2012 5:13 pm

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Victorino has 1 homer in 199 plate appearances for the Dodgers.

September 20, 2012 5:13 pm

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 @Steve in North Hollywood Sorry, yeah, I knew that. Just that “new comments” are flying all over the place. Though,that puts Howard in his glory….so keep it up! Wherever, whatever.

September 20, 2012 5:15 pm

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@The Commish he was tied when he gave up his runs, and tied when he gave up hits to leadoff every inning.

September 20, 2012 5:15 pm

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you know better than to defend him, when you wouldn’t do the same for blanton or harang.

September 20, 2012 5:16 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The When you team doesn’t score and you are on the road, it’s like being behind.

September 20, 2012 5:16 pm

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Nice stop, AJ. I am actually chuckling over AJ, he is just so poor.

September 20, 2012 5:17 pm

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what’s your defense of caps now? he’s just awful. awful.

September 20, 2012 5:18 pm

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 @Howard Cole Yeah, I guess he’s no Harang (dripping sarcasm implied)

September 20, 2012 5:18 pm

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 @Howard Cole  Caps is money, Howard.  Straight up money.  Well, if you bet on the Nats.  But, seriously, even Kershaw was struggling to get wins behind this sad battery.

September 20, 2012 5:19 pm

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 @The Commish
 Best hitting catcher of all time, I think. 

September 20, 2012 5:20 pm

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 @Steve in North Hollywood  @Howard Cole And dat’s dat

September 20, 2012 5:20 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Entitled like Manny Ramirez, Dave Kingman, Jose Offerman?

September 20, 2012 5:21 pm

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i am going to like everything the commish says…. I am not worthy of being so close in pts.  lol

September 20, 2012 5:22 pm

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@The Commish just say, “you’re right, capuano is a first half pitcher. those games matter, but all in all, he’s not a very good pitcher.” start there.

September 20, 2012 5:23 pm

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        Piazza was a hitting terror.  Take him as hitter over any catcher ever.  As good as Posey is this year and may prove to be over the years, he  hasn’t played enough seasons to even make a comparision with Piazza. 
 
 

September 20, 2012 5:24 pm

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that last run should be unearned.

September 20, 2012 5:24 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo well said, thanks.

September 20, 2012 5:24 pm

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 @Howard Cole I KNEW we would find compromise. Totally agree,my bruh.

September 20, 2012 5:25 pm

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@The Commish he’s only at third because of the error. it’s unearned unless he scores on a hit or is advanced to third some other way.

September 20, 2012 5:25 pm

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 @Howard Cole And Hanley is a defensive dunce.

September 20, 2012 5:26 pm

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@The Commish bad shortstop. all this stuff we’re talking about today just fits in with the whole season, really. so it’s probably another series loss when they can’t have one. that fits too, actually.

September 20, 2012 5:27 pm

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So far, I’m glad I’m missing a lot of this game.

September 20, 2012 5:27 pm

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@Johnny Dodger you’re a lucky man…..but you’re gonna miss it all when it’s over, and for six months.

September 20, 2012 5:28 pm

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I know how to fix all the Dodger problems.  Throw another couple hundred million dollars at it in the offseason.  That’ll do it!

September 20, 2012 5:28 pm

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hanley makes that play.

September 20, 2012 5:28 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Johnny I’ll have the glorious 49ers, Howard  ;-)

September 20, 2012 5:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Johnny I’ll miss all the wacko’s on this thread for sure!

September 20, 2012 5:30 pm

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 @Johnny Dodger  @Howard Cole  @Johnny And My Colts, with phenom Andrew Luck will whip your butts in the Super Bowl. How does that taste?

September 20, 2012 5:30 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood they’re going to. I just saw a hour or two ago that the chisox are turning down peavy’s 22 mil option. so count on him here for a ton of money. he’s liable to get hurt, but he’ll be a lot better than greinke and for less money. and kuroda will be back too. maybe someone like torii hunter to play left till crawford comes back and be an extra guy after that, and of course, a catcher. they’ll be fine. it won’t cost THAT much.

September 20, 2012 5:31 pm

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@Johnny Dodger but not a place to chat about them. and that won’t get you to april

September 20, 2012 5:31 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  @Johnny I see Jon Weisman has given up on “Dodger Thoughts”.

September 20, 2012 5:31 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Steve Conspiracy theory much?

September 20, 2012 5:31 pm

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@Johnny Dodger @The Commish no comment.

September 20, 2012 5:32 pm

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Way to help Caps after tough inning. Oh yeah, we do have all of 2 hits.

September 20, 2012 5:32 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Steve  I think they’re gonna sign Greinke and Peavy.  Now, as for a catcher… who’s gonna be available?

September 20, 2012 5:32 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  @Johnny And maybe I’ll win Mega Millions. Ha!

September 20, 2012 5:32 pm

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 @Johnny Dodger  @Howard Cole  @Johnny What ‘s up with that?

September 20, 2012 5:33 pm

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@The Commish they already have the big ticket items. the pitcher will be the last expensive part for 2013. unless there’s a shortstop not yet on the radar.

September 20, 2012 5:33 pm

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@The Commish and you keep defending him. c’mon!

September 20, 2012 5:33 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  @Johnny He’s decided to just concentrate on his blog for Variety.

September 20, 2012 5:34 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The It’s not like we’re down 9-1. What , Detwiler is next coming of Sandy Koufax?

September 20, 2012 5:34 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood not both guys. one or the other, and I say peavy. I’ll bet the total figure will be less than half of what greinke gets, and he’ll be better.

September 20, 2012 5:37 pm

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at least he got the leadoff man.

September 20, 2012 5:37 pm

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Caps with the hands. He can’t rely on the guys behind him. Or in front of him (AJ)

September 20, 2012 5:37 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Steve If they go after Peavy they may as well sign Brad Penny.

September 20, 2012 5:38 pm

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@The Commish well they’re the better team in every way imaginable, so how close to koufax does he need to be.

September 20, 2012 5:38 pm

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@The Commish repeat after me: capuano stinks. it won’t hurt to say it and get it out of the way. you’re making this so much harder on yourself than it has to be.

September 20, 2012 5:39 pm

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@The Commish what’s the comparison there, that both last names start with p?

September 20, 2012 5:40 pm

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hurray!! no abreu pinch hitting.

September 20, 2012 5:45 pm

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a moral victory!!!!

September 20, 2012 5:45 pm

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There are only16 starting pitchers in NL with ERA better than Caps:
R.A. Dickey         Clayton Kershaw Kyle Lohse Matt Cain     Johnny Cueto Gio Gonzalez                 Jordan Zimmermann             Cole Hamels               Wade Miley                Ross Detwiler        Stephen Strasburg             Madison Bumgarner             Cliff Lee             Jonathon Niese              Chad Billingsley                     Yovani Gallardo
 
Not bad company,, eh?  As Casey Stengel said you can look it up.

September 20, 2012 5:45 pm

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With a rally, Caps can be winning pitcher.

September 20, 2012 5:47 pm

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@The Commish yeah, that’s the ticket.

September 20, 2012 5:49 pm

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Wow, I’m throwing out all these straight lines….what did you take a potty break?

September 20, 2012 5:50 pm

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@The Commish I will. but I’m sure that doesn’t include tonight. and I’m sure we could do a second search for post all-star era. wouldn’t be pretty.

September 20, 2012 5:50 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Jon Lovitz, SNL

September 20, 2012 5:51 pm

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july 5.14, aug 4.59, sept not including today, 3.86

September 20, 2012 5:52 pm

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@The Commish dog’s got diarriah actually, been out ten times already.

September 20, 2012 5:52 pm

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@The Commish yep

September 20, 2012 5:52 pm

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AG hits it out to tie it up.

September 20, 2012 5:52 pm

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hr, please.

September 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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 @Howard Cole 162 games makes a season last time I checked.  Wow, San Mateo Tom must love this infighting.

September 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole
 love baseball arguments in general. 

September 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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 @Howard Cole Told ya Caps could be a winner.

September 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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collins again showing his knowledge of something not the dodgers.

September 20, 2012 5:54 pm

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@The Commish he’d still need another run

September 20, 2012 5:54 pm

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@The Commish so much for that.

September 20, 2012 5:54 pm

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Loney clone.

September 20, 2012 5:54 pm

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@The Commish you want him back?

September 20, 2012 5:55 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Doesn’t matter either way. Time to put the fork in if we lose this one.

September 20, 2012 5:55 pm

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@The Commish agreed, but I’m gonna hold off just the same.

September 20, 2012 5:56 pm

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@The Commish since it is up to me, after all.

September 20, 2012 5:57 pm

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we might see kenley tonight. but maybe not if it stays this “close.”

September 20, 2012 5:57 pm

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hey randy, i see you “liking” but not commenting. wassup?

September 20, 2012 5:59 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The
 with this second wild card thing no reason to give up at all. 

September 20, 2012 5:59 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo  @Howard Cole  @The Easy for you to say.

September 20, 2012 6:00 pm

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 @Howard Cole split screen trouble it moves when i touch it..lol

September 20, 2012 6:00 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  @The
 even if D and G’s current standing were reversed I’d still be Hopin’ and Prayin’ for the G’s to get in the playoffs

September 20, 2012 6:01 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Wait, I thought the Commish was all-omniscient, all-knowing, etc. LOL

September 20, 2012 6:02 pm

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@rotarandy oy.

September 20, 2012 6:02 pm

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 @Howard Cole trying to get the commishs pt. totall out front of my own…

September 20, 2012 6:02 pm

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 @rotarandy  @Howard Cole Randy, don’t have to…you’ve been on the thread way more than me.

September 20, 2012 6:03 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo well, with a loss today, they’re three out with 12 to play and behind st and milw for the second wild card.

September 20, 2012 6:03 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 yaneverknow.  far worse odds have been overcome at the ends of of many baseball seasons

September 20, 2012 6:05 pm

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 @rotarandy  @Howard Cole When I comment, I lose the game – have to click on it again each time.

September 20, 2012 6:06 pm

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@rotarandy that would suck.

September 20, 2012 6:06 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole I’m noy wortthy

September 20, 2012 6:06 pm

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@rotarandy @The Commish none of us are.

September 20, 2012 6:06 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @rotarandy  @The Ditto that.

September 20, 2012 6:07 pm

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so guys, I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this question, but what are the chances of your showing up to a lakers thread? I’m not saying I’ll do them, but if there’s some interest, it would make a difference.

September 20, 2012 6:07 pm

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@Johnny Dodger @rotarandy doesn’t surprise me, really.

September 20, 2012 6:08 pm

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 @Howard Cole Make it a 49er thread and yeah, but not basketball for me, Howard.

September 20, 2012 6:09 pm

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I know this sounds crazy, and Jim Tracy-like (even more crazy), but since our bullpen
has been decent (except for game #2 last night), why not start using everyone
for 80 pitches to start game. And then just bring on the rest of staff as needed.
Figured this thread was the place for crazy ideas.

September 20, 2012 6:09 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @rotarandy  @The
 I am.  Plus, I weigh 800 pounds.  I’m worthy as they get

September 20, 2012 6:09 pm

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righty reliever. means we’ll see abreu for no apparent reason.

September 20, 2012 6:09 pm

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@The Commish and the pitcher batting eighth.

September 20, 2012 6:10 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Perfect!!

September 20, 2012 6:10 pm

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@Johnny Dodger I’d do nfl if we had a team. notice I didn’t say “when” we have a team? I’ll probably be living in san diego by that time.

September 20, 2012 6:11 pm

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 @Howard Cole A Bobby Casual sighting?  I can’t wait!!!

September 20, 2012 6:11 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo @rotarandy me thinks you exaggerate.

September 20, 2012 6:12 pm

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@The Commish not yet. but could be.

September 20, 2012 6:12 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom  @rotarandy
 No, really, I am the 800 pound gorilla Giants’ fan in the Dodgers’ fan room.  you hadn’t noticed yet?

September 20, 2012 6:13 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Johnny I know I’ve asked this a million times but how does L.A. not have an NFL team? Conspiracy??? Is it a Romney thing?  LOL

September 20, 2012 6:13 pm

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I @Howard Cole I just can’t watch the NBA every since they became thugs after
the Magic Bird Jordan era.

September 20, 2012 6:14 pm

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@The Commish @Johnny well this thing the other day with aeg might screw it all up. and if it does, that means the dodgers can jump back in, but it’ll be push back a bunch of years, again.

September 20, 2012 6:15 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole
 Completely agree.  Used to be big fan of pro basketball.  Have near zero interest now

September 20, 2012 6:15 pm

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Throwing 96 mph.

September 20, 2012 6:15 pm

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And whiffs him with 87

September 20, 2012 6:15 pm

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@The Commish well, i gotta do something during the offseason. maybe nba isn’t it. I might have to resort to non sports topics, which I originally planned to do here. but that won’t result in much discussion, and certainly not from you guys.

September 20, 2012 6:16 pm

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two more innings to not score any runs. same old same old.

September 20, 2012 6:17 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The
 howie just called us a bunch of cretins

September 20, 2012 6:17 pm

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mattingly needs the time bought there because he can’t decide at normal manager speed.

September 20, 2012 6:18 pm

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 @Howard Cole Did he get signed for 2013, or is he under contract through 2013?

September 20, 2012 6:20 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo no I didn’t. I wouldn’t comment on anything else either, but I kind of have to write about it. or not. maybe I don’t.

September 20, 2012 6:20 pm

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445

September 20, 2012 6:20 pm

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Like the Bucs, hope we can finish over .500.

September 20, 2012 6:20 pm

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@The Commish I don’t think it’s official, but ned said he wanted don to come back. and he will.

September 20, 2012 6:21 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole Colletti is extended per Kasten, and Mattingly will be brought back guaranteed by Colletti.

September 20, 2012 6:21 pm

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maybe if girardi goes, mattingly will give new york a look. but that’s probably a long shot.

September 20, 2012 6:22 pm

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lyons agrees with commish!

September 20, 2012 6:22 pm

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I sure can’t figure how with the D’s line-up they don’t go off more often.  Unbelievable.  Makes me think the D’s are gonna win a lot of games between now and end of season.  Just start ripping. 

September 20, 2012 6:22 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo they won’t, and I don’t think you really think that. giants should clinch sun or monday.

September 20, 2012 6:23 pm

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@The Commish bucs wont.

September 20, 2012 6:23 pm

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If Yanks choke, I don’t think they will jettison Girardi. They’ve had a lot of injuries,
A-Rod, CC, Teixiera.

September 20, 2012 6:24 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo @Tom @rotarandy I get it.

September 20, 2012 6:24 pm

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 @Howard Cole Not listening, what did he say?

September 20, 2012 6:24 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 No, I’m sure the G’s will clinch but in this secondary race for WC, the D’s are certainly still in it.  Lots of potential entropy – brewers and cards to into a brief tailspin as the D’s start tearing it up.  It’s not six games left, it’s twelve or so. 

September 20, 2012 6:25 pm

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@The Commish what if they hold on, but lose in the first round? can’t you see that happening again?

September 20, 2012 6:25 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo ok. I don’t think so, but ok. I’m not sticking the fork in yet.

September 20, 2012 6:26 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Oh yeah. They do NOT hit in the clutch. Many homers, yeah. But their RISP has gotta suck.

September 20, 2012 6:26 pm

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cincy will be an interesting test. sure, the reds are good, but they’re not playing for anything, and you just tap the ball and it goes out there. if they can’t score there….

September 20, 2012 6:27 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 Look at this game here.  Nat’s starter is 9 and 6 on the best team in the NL.  and the D’s have scored one lousy run so far. 

September 20, 2012 6:27 pm

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@The Commish I can’t see them making it to the series. one round win max, and I don’t really expect that.

September 20, 2012 6:28 pm

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What did Lyons say that he agreed with me on?

September 20, 2012 6:28 pm

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I can live with this. he only needs one out, but he’s not going to be sharp.

September 20, 2012 6:29 pm

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@The Commish just talking about the lack of run support and about how dodger pitchers are almost always allowing three runs or less. then he mentioned your name.

September 20, 2012 6:31 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The My Boy PSYCHO!!!!

September 20, 2012 6:31 pm

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90 mph

September 20, 2012 6:31 pm

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nice.

September 20, 2012 6:32 pm

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didn’t evn look over.

September 20, 2012 6:32 pm

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When Werth was on Phils, he would steal bases in very clutch situations vs. Mets.

September 20, 2012 6:33 pm

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@The Commish you know where he got that, right?

September 20, 2012 6:35 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The
 hehehe

September 20, 2012 6:36 pm

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Just so frickin’ hard to win when we only get 3 hits , and rely on MEllis for power. And Zimmerman
is a vacuum cleaner.

September 20, 2012 6:36 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The The “old” Dodger farm system where they taught fundamentals.

September 20, 2012 6:37 pm

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a hit for casual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 20, 2012 6:38 pm

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@The Commish cept for that error.

September 20, 2012 6:38 pm

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 @Howard Cole I am officially speechless.

September 20, 2012 6:38 pm

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@The Commish close. he got it from davey lopes.

September 20, 2012 6:38 pm

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@The Commish no you’re not.

September 20, 2012 6:39 pm

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No DP , please.

September 20, 2012 6:39 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The “                  “

September 20, 2012 6:40 pm

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@The Commish that’s gonzo’s job, but he probably won’t get the chance.

September 20, 2012 6:40 pm

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S. Victorino LF 0-3 M. Kemp CF 1-3 A. Gonzalez 1B 1-3 H. Ramirez SS 0-3 A. Ethier RF 0-3
that’s who’ll bat coming up and into top nine.  that’s hardly chopped liver for a line-up.  they gotta tear it up. 

September 20, 2012 6:41 pm

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Quit hitting it to him!!!

September 20, 2012 6:41 pm

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Victorino really muscled that one out there.

September 20, 2012 6:42 pm

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why haven’t you give me the shit for victorino I give you for capuano. I can take it. he’s been hideous. and I just know he’s going to frisco for a big comeback season and we’re gonna see him all year.

September 20, 2012 6:43 pm

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If I had any grass, I’d go watch it grow instead of sitting here.

September 20, 2012 6:43 pm

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 @Howard Cole no point, my friend, just no point.

September 20, 2012 6:45 pm

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See we should have started Wright, Jansen, Choate, Paco, etc.

September 20, 2012 6:46 pm

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And yeah, Caps sucked. There it is.

September 20, 2012 6:47 pm

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@The Commish it’s weird, you throw out these names and they’re all good. happy to not have to shop for all those parts next year. basically, it’s just short, catcher, sp and bench (the bench part will be easy).

September 20, 2012 6:48 pm

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tolleson will be better next year too.

September 20, 2012 6:49 pm

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next year’s schedule has the D’s playing the west during Sept and the G’s on the east coast road trip. 

September 20, 2012 6:49 pm

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it’s funny how our best game threads are during our weaker moments of baseball.

September 20, 2012 6:50 pm

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Three of the biggest names in baseball coming to bat.  What will they do?

September 20, 2012 6:52 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo nothing much.

September 20, 2012 6:55 pm

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@The Commish you’re off the hook forever. but you know, he’ll probably be pitching in queens next year, and you’ll get to see him more.

September 20, 2012 6:56 pm

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499

September 20, 2012 6:56 pm

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500

September 20, 2012 6:56 pm

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1200

September 20, 2012 6:57 pm

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c’mon matt.

September 20, 2012 6:57 pm

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Looking? ouch.

September 20, 2012 6:57 pm

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I always wonder on a pitch like that, if the batter would just be humble and almost ask nicely for the walk, he gets the walk. he does that trot to first thing, they ring him up.

September 20, 2012 6:58 pm

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Speaking of getting rung up. Gaaaaaaaaawwwwd. Gonzo. WTF?

September 20, 2012 7:00 pm

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these fans don’t look all that excited to me. they look like braves fans to me.

September 20, 2012 7:00 pm

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 @Howard Cole yeah, winners.

September 20, 2012 7:00 pm

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3 pitch k

September 20, 2012 7:01 pm

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 @The Commish
 insufferable

September 20, 2012 7:02 pm

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no words.

September 20, 2012 7:02 pm

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511 mel ott

September 20, 2012 7:02 pm

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Scutaro.  Happy to have him instead of big stars who watch third strikes go by in last inning.

September 20, 2012 7:03 pm

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512 mccovey

September 20, 2012 7:03 pm

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@The Commish kasten’s already talking about how they did it with minor league development, patting himself on the bat essentially. implication is, we’ll be there too in a few years.

September 20, 2012 7:04 pm

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Well, really beautiful to be the team Wash clinches against. I guess
it gets worse than this , but how? [straight line]

September 20, 2012 7:04 pm

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 @The Commish
 Giants win WS?

September 20, 2012 7:04 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo shaaaaaaaaaaaadup.

September 20, 2012 7:04 pm

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 @The Commish
 [hehehe]

September 20, 2012 7:05 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo may he be your world series mvp.

September 20, 2012 7:06 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The
 they did.  look at how many very good players they drafted.

September 20, 2012 7:06 pm

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ted williams

September 20, 2012 7:07 pm

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714 The Babe

September 20, 2012 7:07 pm

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I miss baseball.

September 20, 2012 7:08 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 that would be great.  I know I like players like Scutaro a lot more than a-hole stars  like Barry Bonds. 

September 20, 2012 7:08 pm

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on the bright side, joe blanton.

September 20, 2012 7:08 pm

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@The Commish 755

September 20, 2012 7:08 pm

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 @Howard Cole We will remember this night. Glad we can all be there for each other.  What the hell, what’s one more year to wait?

September 20, 2012 7:09 pm

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be interesting to see how many, if an ibwaa members notice the item number, when they buy a 1 year membership, is 755. so far, no one has mentioned it.

September 20, 2012 7:09 pm

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buy a lifetime membership, the item number is 5714

September 20, 2012 7:10 pm

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moreover, did you ever notice the counter at the bottom of baseballsavvy?

September 20, 2012 7:11 pm

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Evening, all.  Remember – it ain’t over ’til it’s…

September 20, 2012 7:12 pm

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From the old TV show Taxi: Bobby (would-be actor) was going to quit acting if he didn’t get an offer before midnight. Midnight came and went  and no call. Everyone’s head was down. Bobby said “What the hell, I’ll give it another year”. That’s how I feel about being a Dodger fan.

September 20, 2012 7:12 pm

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mickey mantle almost

September 20, 2012 7:13 pm

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 @Howard Cole Dimaggio, Aaron, Koufax (K’s in season)?

September 20, 2012 7:16 pm

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@The Commish THAT is well said, and a great memory. I’ve thought about that with my career, you know. Often. Shit, now that you mention it, I’ll have to think on that tonight. and you know what happened to bobby, right?

September 20, 2012 7:16 pm

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Gonna ; night all.  We just have to win the rest of our games.  A cinch.

September 20, 2012 7:17 pm

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@The Commish yep. one other guy in 13 years has noticed, but he did it with no prompting. i just thought it would be funny to say I had 56,000,000 visitors when I started. it was an april fools thing that nobody got. and I just left it there.

September 20, 2012 7:18 pm

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@The Commish you know the 5714, right?

September 20, 2012 7:18 pm

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10 of 12

September 20, 2012 7:22 pm

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“But he’s one of the few guys who seems to be playing free and easy. He provided the Dodgers’ only offense with a home run and plays some of the most solid defense in the major leagues. If the Dodgers had nine Mark Ellises, they’d be better off in this playoff hunt than they’ve been with a bunch of bigger, more highly hyped players.”
 
(From Mark Saxon’s ESPN Dodgers Report tonight.)

September 20, 2012 9:27 pm

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http://www.baseballsavvy.com/images/howie.jpg…scary but true.
 
BTW – won’t be home Friday afternoon for the Cincy game, assuming there will be a thread.

September 20, 2012 9:45 pm

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http://www.baseballsavvy.com/images/howie.jpg    Scary, but true.
 
BTW – I won’t be home tomorrow for the Cincy game or the thread.

September 20, 2012 9:47 pm

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new post coming tomorrow, so we start fresh, but belatedly on a new thread.

game underway.

September 21, 2012 4:12 pm

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cubs beat the cards, btw, so the dodgers stand 2.5 games back of the coveted second wild card. brewers @ washington now.

September 21, 2012 4:14 pm

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ah, the worm killing begins.

September 21, 2012 4:14 pm

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that’ll get down.

September 21, 2012 4:15 pm

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in da house via split-screen

September 21, 2012 4:20 pm

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yay! and blanton with 2 pitches for 2 outs. wow.

September 21, 2012 4:20 pm

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let’s all thank darwin barney of the cubs, for slamming
a 9th inning home run off the cards salas today;
 
 
 
 

September 21, 2012 4:21 pm

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collins out of the loop on the melky thing. what a dweeb. selig said hours ago that he’d make a one time rule adjustment at melky’s suggestion, and he will not win the batting title.

September 21, 2012 4:22 pm

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 @Howard Cole 
 
still think that whole jose reyes, taking himself out of the last couple of games
of the season, to beat matty kemp for the batting title, was bush league;
 
 

September 21, 2012 4:24 pm

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hey howard   ,,you see the shuttle fly over???

September 21, 2012 4:25 pm

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 @rotarandy 
 
sure did here at the beach;
 
directly in front of my studio at 11:52;

September 21, 2012 4:27 pm

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@rotarandy no, I didn’t know it had south pas as a pas over. shoot!

September 21, 2012 4:27 pm

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hey commish..you can thank me for that 70 pts. burst..

September 21, 2012 4:27 pm

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@larrydoby totally totally totally. if they were in the playoffs, and they wanted to rest him one day, that’s one thing, but that was bush. good call there.

September 21, 2012 4:28 pm

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@larrydoby remember I said the cubs would play the cards tough this weekend. might even sweep em. dodgers just gotta do their part

September 21, 2012 4:28 pm

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check out the ibwaa site in progress. I should finish sun or mon. http://www.ibwaa.com

September 21, 2012 4:30 pm

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nothing to lose by giving rivera a start here. it’s un mattingly like, late in trying it, but smart just the same.

September 21, 2012 4:31 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 cool..

September 21, 2012 4:31 pm

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@rotarandy there are pages for each year since 2009, but not visible yet.

September 21, 2012 4:31 pm

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@rotarandy thanks.

September 21, 2012 4:31 pm

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@rotarandy did you click around? there are some cool photos.

September 21, 2012 4:32 pm

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god forbid mattingly would do the same thing with aj, and actually get fedx off the pine.

September 21, 2012 4:32 pm

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nats up on brewers 2-1 early, but old friend edwin jackson’s doing his thing. that won’t be anywhere close to the final score.

September 21, 2012 4:33 pm

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@rotarandy I don’t think commish is here yet really. we’ll see him soon enough though

September 21, 2012 4:37 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @rotarandy
 thought he was split screening…

September 21, 2012 4:39 pm

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xavier paul is real nice story?

September 21, 2012 4:39 pm

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it’s 68 at bats. c’mon.

September 21, 2012 4:40 pm

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no non-howie comments for 12 minutes. just sayin.

September 21, 2012 4:42 pm

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boo. boo on rose.

September 21, 2012 4:43 pm

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because, we KNOW when we’re done &
beaten & it’s time to throw in the towel;
 
i’m jus sayin ….
 
 

September 21, 2012 4:44 pm

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Shuittle flies over this morning and now Romney is up the street I know he was go be at a fundraiser in some very rich person’s house in Hillsborough this afternoon but it’s all secret regarding whose house but I know he’s up there because of all the helicopters over my house.  Guess they’re trying to figure out where he is or it’s security.  One was some kind of black hawk type machine.

September 21, 2012 4:44 pm

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@larrydoby not yet. not yet.

September 21, 2012 4:44 pm

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WTH is going on?  The D’s are ahead.

September 21, 2012 4:44 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo 
 
m o r m o n s = m o r o n s ~

September 21, 2012 4:45 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo I threw up in hillsborough in 1977 after a ratty corn dog at the san jose flea market.

September 21, 2012 4:45 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 hahaha.  sure picked a tony area to barf.

September 21, 2012 4:45 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo it’s just a run. don’t get overly excited:)

September 21, 2012 4:45 pm

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more worm killing for the dodgers. one run is not going to cut it.

September 21, 2012 4:46 pm

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two more games of eric collins for the year.

September 21, 2012 4:49 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 I know you didn’t barf on the sidewalk cuz Hillsborough doesn’t have sidewalks. 

September 21, 2012 4:50 pm

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commish, commish wherever you are.

September 21, 2012 4:51 pm

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I take back my compliment to mattingly about sitting victorino and giving rivera a game. victorino has a sore wrist, so as usual, the skipper only rests a guy when he absolutely has to.

September 21, 2012 4:54 pm

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Had to take phone call; Koufax called me to ask
my opinion on investments. Told him
to stay away from Wilpon. Oops, too late.

September 21, 2012 5:03 pm

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@The Commish yeah, that’s the ticket. did you see that photo of sandy on the ibwaa page? no comment?

September 21, 2012 5:06 pm

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 @rotarandy  @Howard Cole Thanks Roto!!!!!

September 21, 2012 5:07 pm

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more commenting from randy will lead to more points. it’s the only way.

September 21, 2012 5:07 pm

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 @Howard Cole 
 
shane has a sore wrist from spanking the
monkey ever since he got to lost angeles;
 
 

September 21, 2012 5:08 pm

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how’s sandy’s elbow? did he say that if he were pitching for the dodgers these days, they’d just let him keep pitching.

September 21, 2012 5:09 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Just haven’t had time to peruse. Will by tomorrow AM.

September 21, 2012 5:09 pm

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in accordance to stats, luis cruz
is due to go out of the yard;
 
 
 

September 21, 2012 5:10 pm

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aj hit the ball well for a change, but again with the quick at bat. and we know he’s not in there for his defense.

September 21, 2012 5:10 pm

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@larrydoby consider it arranged.

September 21, 2012 5:10 pm

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 @Howard Cole Says he can still bring the fastball at 95; hard curve at 91.

September 21, 2012 5:10 pm

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@The Commish pretty good for 75.

September 21, 2012 5:11 pm

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@The Commish thanks. I should finish by mon

September 21, 2012 5:11 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The 76, 77 in December

September 21, 2012 5:14 pm

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@The Commish ahh. perhaps a statue in the works by then.

September 21, 2012 5:15 pm

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I’m afraid to jinx this outing.

September 21, 2012 5:16 pm

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Gee that was strike 3. Cmon ump!

September 21, 2012 5:17 pm

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do they throw those backwards ks in the to avoid every having kkk up there? if so, that’s a damn good idea. I saw a guy post kkk on twitter and it struck me.

September 21, 2012 5:18 pm

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 @Howard Cole Political correct much?

September 21, 2012 5:19 pm

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it’d be nice to see broxton blow a save this weekend, but I’d prefer there are no save chances to blow.

September 21, 2012 5:20 pm

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woulda been a triple, so we catch a break there.

September 21, 2012 5:21 pm

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Commish – you really need to get here earlier to pre-empt Howie’s comments about you.  e.g., he said you would likely show up here after watching your DVD of Hioney Boo Boo re-runs

September 21, 2012 5:22 pm

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seinfeld reference opportunity.

September 21, 2012 5:22 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo not.

September 21, 2012 5:22 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo besides, he came back with a good excuse.

September 21, 2012 5:23 pm

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@The Commish kkk’s a pretty bad three letters to put together.

September 21, 2012 5:23 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo Just try to come between The Commish and Cole and you will LOSE, you SF loser!

September 21, 2012 5:23 pm

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totally agree with lyons there, but they shoulda pitched to hannagin.

September 21, 2012 5:24 pm

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 @The Commish
 well, at least you didn’t spell it looser like most folks who bandy the term.

September 21, 2012 5:24 pm

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OMG. Every night is just one nightmare after another. Yeah, Brox to save would be the ultimate indignity.

September 21, 2012 5:25 pm

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And of course, AJ didn’t catch the ball. now the homer.

September 21, 2012 5:25 pm

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@The Commish to blow the save the ultimate fun.

September 21, 2012 5:25 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The You are correct , sir! (with Ed McMahon inflection)

September 21, 2012 5:26 pm

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Well, we weren’t gonna win with one run anyway.

September 21, 2012 5:27 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The How kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk (supposed to be 18 for Sandy)?

September 21, 2012 5:28 pm

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@The Commish exactly, but it’s incredibly lame. you pitch to the number 8 hitter there.

September 21, 2012 5:29 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The
 I heard they also thought of a statue for Drysdale but nixed that because use of ivory if illegal and not enough dead elephants anyway to re-create his acre of teeth.

September 21, 2012 5:30 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Yeah but if he gets a hit, EVERYONE would be bitchin’ about pitching to the #8 with the pitcher on deck,

September 21, 2012 5:30 pm

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shall we review the seinfeld reference? I think we did this when the reds were in la.

September 21, 2012 5:30 pm

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 @Howard Cole Lost…help.

September 21, 2012 5:31 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo  @Howard Cole  @The Mays and McCovey still dusting themselves off from Big D’s brushbacks.

September 21, 2012 5:32 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole  @The
 Mays was always going sprawling in the dirt.  that was good stuff.

September 21, 2012 5:32 pm

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@The Commish the spelling’s off, but you get the idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbxUyiJ19M

September 21, 2012 5:33 pm

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kemp’s looking better. this would be a bleeping great time for adrian’s second homer as a dodger, no?

September 21, 2012 5:34 pm

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come on hanley!

September 21, 2012 5:37 pm

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Wow that popup, it’s all in the wrists.

September 21, 2012 5:38 pm

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Blame unmanly Hanley’s stoopidass earrings.  Gawd, I’ll take Scutaro any old day in that siutation.

September 21, 2012 5:39 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Oh yeah, duh. Can’t believe I missed a Seinfeld reference.  Slow on the take tonight….

September 21, 2012 5:40 pm

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it’s just a bad year all the way around. a bad two years. just gotta hope a fresh start next spring, and some actual help from his manager will do the trick.

September 21, 2012 5:41 pm

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Saw Sandy’s pic on Join page. Nice!

September 21, 2012 5:43 pm

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 @The Commish
 hmm, the classiest baseball players ever.  koufax is in, musial is in, and there are others will come to mind.  their behavior, how they talked,, carried themselves. 

September 21, 2012 5:46 pm

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Anybody a Ball Four (Jim Bouton) fan?  Great book…millions
of great one-liners.

September 21, 2012 5:46 pm

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 @The Commish
 Spaceman is cool.  recently became oldest pitcher to win  a professional baseball game.  up in Marin County.  San Rafael.  think he’s 65.

September 21, 2012 5:47 pm

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 @The Commish
 jackie robinson, of course.  McCovey’s in, too.

September 21, 2012 5:49 pm

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@The Commish I am, but I haven’t read it in 40 years. and I can’t believe I’m old enough to say that.

September 21, 2012 5:49 pm

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rolen getting a steal. same dodgers.

September 21, 2012 5:49 pm

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He stole that on Blanton; cant blame AJ.

September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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I mean Choate.

September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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collins is so clueless

September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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Thats what Werth used to do to the Mets.

September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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I really hope Randy doesn’t Choate…

September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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of course, but it’s so lame. and you never see the dodgers do stuff like that, but they have it done to them all the time.

September 21, 2012 5:50 pm

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 @Steve in North Hollywood
 knock me out my chair, Steve.  you made a punny

September 21, 2012 5:51 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood it’s his biggest opprtunity as a dodger. and THIS is a dumb move.

September 21, 2012 5:51 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo  I’ll be here all week… wait, nope, I probably won’t…

September 21, 2012 5:51 pm

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oy here. season on the line.

September 21, 2012 5:52 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The There was this repartee between Joe
Morgan and Bouton after Morgan whiffed on a wicked curve.  I’ll find it.

September 21, 2012 5:52 pm

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 @Howard Cole  And how many times have we said that….

September 21, 2012 5:52 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood lemme research it. double or homer here.

September 21, 2012 5:53 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Steve  passed ball

September 21, 2012 5:54 pm

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tht fat bastard Rolen has stolen one base all year.  caught once, too.  c’mon, D’s. 

September 21, 2012 5:54 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo thats what makes is so dodgers.

September 21, 2012 5:56 pm

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this would be classic, wouldn’t it?

September 21, 2012 5:57 pm

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Did Honeygoltz at least bring doughnuts for everyone?

September 21, 2012 5:58 pm

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single or double?

September 21, 2012 5:58 pm

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659

September 21, 2012 5:58 pm

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660. willie mays.

September 21, 2012 5:58 pm

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unwatchable.

September 21, 2012 6:00 pm

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shut up collins. better a ball than a double

September 21, 2012 6:01 pm

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I am exhausted

September 21, 2012 6:02 pm

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@The Commish it’s just another nine days. you’ll make it.

September 21, 2012 6:02 pm

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Does Dusty Baker still have that damn stupid, unwatchable habit of turning toothpicks inside his mouth?

September 21, 2012 6:03 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The yeah, but my heart won’t.

September 21, 2012 6:03 pm

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Maybe Arroyo suffers from the long inning. I know, I’m grasping at straws.

September 21, 2012 6:04 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo forever and always. but he’s not here. irregular heartbeat.

September 21, 2012 6:05 pm

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@The Commish try porn.

September 21, 2012 6:05 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 oh, that’s right. 

September 21, 2012 6:06 pm

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At least it gets Rivera out of the game. Bring on Bobby Casual!!!

September 21, 2012 6:06 pm

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aj owes us something here.

September 21, 2012 6:07 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The
 hehehe

September 21, 2012 6:07 pm

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@The Commish I’d leave herrera in, which means we’ll see victorino.

September 21, 2012 6:07 pm

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remember chris spier, tom?

September 21, 2012 6:08 pm

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good to see ellis selective again

September 21, 2012 6:08 pm

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oh bleep. we’ll see casual hit next.

September 21, 2012 6:08 pm

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so much for that.

September 21, 2012 6:09 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 yep.  saw him hit a grand slame during his second stint as a G

September 21, 2012 6:10 pm

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If the Dodgers don’t start scoring a bunch of runs and damn soon,
I will say they quit. And maybe Mattingly is the problem. But
I think they are quitting.

September 21, 2012 6:12 pm

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tough spot for kenley here. I’m concerned, but I get it. I suppose.

September 21, 2012 6:12 pm

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 @The Commish
 sure looks that way to me, Bud, and Mattingly is a huge problem, I think.  Would another team hire him after this year.  I doubt it. 

September 21, 2012 6:12 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo Yanks would and fans would go crazy.

September 21, 2012 6:13 pm

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@The Commish I think mattingly is a real part of the problem, but I don’t think they’ve quit.

September 21, 2012 6:13 pm

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 @The Commish
 and Yanks would be worse off for it.  Damn fine player; lousy manager

September 21, 2012 6:14 pm

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@The Commish @Tom in San Mateo girardi would have to be fired first, which could happen. I’d be fine with it actually.

September 21, 2012 6:14 pm

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90 mph

September 21, 2012 6:15 pm

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this is a pretty big break for the dodgers.

September 21, 2012 6:17 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 it was against the pirates at Candlestick.  a game in which the Pirate pitcher, well known but I can’t recall his name.went ballistic on the mound.  got thorwn out of the game and he threw his glove about 60 feet then procedded to kick it again and again as he left the field madder ‘n hell.

September 21, 2012 6:17 pm

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88, 90, 91

September 21, 2012 6:18 pm

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Arroyo is one tough out.

September 21, 2012 6:18 pm

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@The Commish with a classic swing.

September 21, 2012 6:18 pm

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quick shower, i’ll send photos

September 21, 2012 6:19 pm

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 @Howard Cole oy

September 21, 2012 6:21 pm

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didn’t miss much, did i.

September 21, 2012 6:26 pm

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homer please. dre’s due!

September 21, 2012 6:26 pm

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 @Howard Cole nope

September 21, 2012 6:26 pm

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c’mon kemper!

September 21, 2012 6:27 pm

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nice at bat. oy.

September 21, 2012 6:28 pm

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Maybe Lopes can grab an AB. They are absolutely not trying out there.

September 21, 2012 6:29 pm

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taking the main squeeze to dinner no matter what probably in about 20 minutes. unfortunately, that’s probably enough time.

September 21, 2012 6:30 pm

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 @Howard Cole How’s she doing?

September 21, 2012 6:30 pm

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@The Commish I’m surprise someone of your baseballsavvyness would buy into that. just as an example, can you name a time in your career when things weren’t going well, that you weren’t trying. c’mon. it’s not trying, it’s not chemistry, it’s just not playing well. that, plus some guys not being good enough, and ditto the manager.

September 21, 2012 6:31 pm

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Just got home from work and whadya know?  The D’s still stuck on 1 run.  I’m heading out to dinner.  Maybe they’ll show the show it in the bar…  Everyone, enjoy your friday night.

September 21, 2012 6:32 pm

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still 2-1 washington over the brewers, bottom of the eighth.

September 21, 2012 6:32 pm

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don’t throw a strike please

September 21, 2012 6:32 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The Agree to disagree.

September 21, 2012 6:33 pm

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@Steve in North Hollywood unless you’re going someplace close, it’ll be over by the time you get there.

September 21, 2012 6:33 pm

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will they have the balls to run for votto?

September 21, 2012 6:34 pm

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no matter.

September 21, 2012 6:34 pm

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6 pts. from 500…woohoo

September 21, 2012 6:35 pm

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 @Steve in North Hollywood
 have a great evening, Steve.  Turn the bar big screen to the Giants game.  :)

September 21, 2012 6:35 pm

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for howard

September 21, 2012 6:35 pm

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you can make it tonight if you want. it’s up to you.

September 21, 2012 6:36 pm

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runs in the ninth, please.

September 21, 2012 6:36 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo @Steve in North Hollywood there are some much bigger games going on.

September 21, 2012 6:37 pm

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broxton!!!! if the game were in l.a., I’d bet the house he’d blow it here.

September 21, 2012 6:38 pm

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commish!!! broxton!!!!

September 21, 2012 6:39 pm

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4 saves in 6 chances. oy.

September 21, 2012 6:39 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @The And actually looking back sometimes I wasn’t trying as hard as I could. Maybe it’s just human to pack it in sometimes.

September 21, 2012 6:40 pm

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I’m resurrecting a loney line: another smash from our first baseman.

September 21, 2012 6:40 pm

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 @Howard Cole
 worms beware

September 21, 2012 6:41 pm

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 @Howard Cole it’s a moment all right!

September 21, 2012 6:42 pm

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he’ll homer.

September 21, 2012 6:42 pm

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or not.

September 21, 2012 6:43 pm

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92, 95

September 21, 2012 6:43 pm

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you know, broxton’s get the win in about five minutes.

September 21, 2012 6:44 pm

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 @Howard Cole perfect finish to this season

September 21, 2012 6:44 pm

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Former and future MVP Ryan Braun ties it up for Brewers in the ninth.

September 21, 2012 6:45 pm

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 @The Commish  @Howard Cole
 both of you bite your tongues….softly

September 21, 2012 6:45 pm

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Brox 1-2-3; y’know I can’t hate the guy.  Not his fault he got hurt.

September 21, 2012 6:45 pm

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get your guesses in now. how many batters does it take.

September 21, 2012 6:46 pm

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 @Howard Cole wow

September 21, 2012 6:46 pm

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@The Commish plenty of other things were his fault.

September 21, 2012 6:47 pm

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you gotta use league here, don’t you?

September 21, 2012 6:47 pm

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 @Howard Cole Jewish hammer stole 2nd, Ramirez knocked him in. 3-2 BrewCrew

September 21, 2012 6:47 pm

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it’s unfair, but I just might have to vote for him.

September 21, 2012 6:47 pm

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 @Howard Cole I don’t know Belisario throwing well. He can do 2.

September 21, 2012 6:48 pm

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D’s didn’t take one walk tonight.  Perhaps that’s an indicator of giving up.  Watch their walk totals for each game.  Takes concentration and commitment:  work,  to get walks

September 21, 2012 6:48 pm

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brewers take the lead! they’re getting that second wild card

September 21, 2012 6:48 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo it’s not giving up, but some real preparation from the manager wouldn’t be a waste of their time.

September 21, 2012 6:49 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 forever it seems when the Dodgers weren’t a power, blast it out of the park team, they stuck it out at the plate with base hits and walks.

September 21, 2012 6:50 pm

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shut up colllins!

September 21, 2012 6:52 pm

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he’s hit the wall

September 21, 2012 6:53 pm

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Ronald to the rescue!

September 21, 2012 6:55 pm

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he’s been amazing, but he’ll probably need rotator cuff surgery shortly.

September 21, 2012 6:56 pm

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 @Howard Cole Well if he wants to fit in with the rest of the staff… yeah, sure.

September 21, 2012 6:57 pm

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helicopters are all abuzz again around here.  Guess Romney raised his big heap of cash and is on his way again. 

September 21, 2012 6:58 pm

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@Tom in San Mateo maybe it’ll fall out of the chopper and you can make a run for it.

September 21, 2012 6:59 pm

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@The Commish that would be labrum surgery then.

September 21, 2012 6:59 pm

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 @Tom in San Mateo
 can’t wait to see the secret video

September 21, 2012 7:00 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom Nice word picture. hahahahaha

September 21, 2012 7:00 pm

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damn glad they got casual out of the way, and herrera is batting here.

September 21, 2012 7:00 pm

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755 hank

September 21, 2012 7:00 pm

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now the steal?

September 21, 2012 7:00 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 crackin up.  all the comments cracked me up. 

September 21, 2012 7:01 pm

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god forbid a steal attempt. jeez.

September 21, 2012 7:01 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 Luxury box AT&T park all season next year.  On me, guys!  I’ll fly you all up for the Dodger games.  hehehe

September 21, 2012 7:02 pm

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wow

September 21, 2012 7:04 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 Reminds of a plot-line from a Donald Westlake story. 
 

September 21, 2012 7:04 pm

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507   congrates howard

September 21, 2012 7:04 pm

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Y’know what LeCure means in French, right?

September 21, 2012 7:06 pm

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@The Commish I only studied for ten years in school. my guess is “the cure.”

September 21, 2012 7:07 pm

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@The Commish not really

September 21, 2012 7:07 pm

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can’t believe they don’t have chapman for andre

September 21, 2012 7:08 pm

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spier’s dumber than don. you gotta walk him.

September 21, 2012 7:08 pm

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collins. man.

September 21, 2012 7:09 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @Tom
 I’ll be a ground-based legend, the reciprocal of DB Cooper.  In an SF Cap.  Course, my take will be about ten times as much. 

September 21, 2012 7:09 pm

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slammmmmm

September 21, 2012 7:12 pm

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andre dps and I’m going to dinner.

September 21, 2012 7:12 pm

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@rotarandy me thinks youse dreamin.

September 21, 2012 7:13 pm

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 @Howard Cole Andre vs . LHP. Oy, and have a good din-din.

September 21, 2012 7:13 pm

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here’s where Eitheir’s gotta earn his paycheck

September 21, 2012 7:14 pm

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 @Howard Cole  @rotarandy
 i think your dreamie too….lol

September 21, 2012 7:14 pm

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mellis has to get down there and knock cozart to cleveland. or maybe toledo.

September 21, 2012 7:14 pm

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or dayton. I’m not up on my ohio geography.

September 21, 2012 7:15 pm

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damn glad it’s not chapman here.

September 21, 2012 7:15 pm

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 @Howard Cole He’s hurt isn’t he? Or worn out?

September 21, 2012 7:15 pm

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i’ll be happy with a single

September 21, 2012 7:16 pm

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better the k than the dp.

September 21, 2012 7:17 pm

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@The Commish he’s available.

September 21, 2012 7:17 pm

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Cmon, Matt for the gipper!

September 21, 2012 7:18 pm

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probably get the fly ball now.

September 21, 2012 7:19 pm

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oh man. six pitches for two ks.

September 21, 2012 7:19 pm

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I came.

September 21, 2012 7:20 pm

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And I watched that FULL SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 21, 2012 7:21 pm

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is spier dumber than mattingly or are they out of righties? how can they be?

September 21, 2012 7:21 pm

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this is good

September 21, 2012 7:21 pm

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 @Howard Cole hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

September 21, 2012 7:21 pm

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I’ll be a monkey’s uncle.  Hey, that’s right, I am a monkey’s uncle.  Grandfather, even.

September 21, 2012 7:22 pm

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running to dinner. will listen to the rest in car.

September 21, 2012 7:22 pm

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 @Howard Cole say hi for me.

September 21, 2012 7:26 pm

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Please keep it in the park.

September 21, 2012 7:29 pm

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goodnite johnboy

September 21, 2012 7:32 pm

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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Nite all.

September 21, 2012 7:32 pm

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Nite all.  Glad the Reds lost.yahoo!

September 21, 2012 7:34 pm

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They’re they go again, extending the misery for another couple of days.  Somewhere there’s a fat lady who is still eating instead of singing…

September 21, 2012 11:26 pm

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